[Radiant] still active?
Sean Cribbs
seancribbs at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 09:58:17 CST 2008
Maarten,
Yes, I understand the documentation problem. That is one reason why we
have been trying to promote the wiki; documentation is time-consuming to
write.
Sean
Maarten Oelering wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> Thanks for your extensive reply. I am happy to hear that Radiant is
> very active.
>
> However others might get the same impression as me, which probably
> would not be the case if radiantcms.org is updated more frequently.
> But, as you say, the quality of the code is what counts, and not the
> packaging.
>
> The fact that Radiant, like any other CMS, may not do eveything out-
> of-the-box is not a problem. That's one of the main reasons why I
> prefer a Rails based CMS, since it makes developing extensions a lot
> easier.
>
> What made me enthousiastic in the review I mentioned is that Radiant
> is part of list of well-known CMS's and considered as an interesting
> new contenter which looks very promising. As a ruby developer, the
> only lacking feature I have a problem with is the part about the
> documentation. I will check out the Styled Blog template as you
> suggested. This might help me creating the layouts and structure of
> the site. However my less technical colleagues must also be able to
> edit content or add pages to the site. If the rather conceptual
> documentation is extended with more concrete examples, it might help
> a lot.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maarten
>
> On 20-feb-2008, at 15:46, Sean Cribbs wrote:
>
>
>> Maarten,
>>
>> Let me assuage some of your fears. Radiant is VERY active, people are
>> using the CMS all the time to build websites, and I receive at
>> least 15
>> messages a day on the mailing lists. Your perception of inactivity in
>> the project may be because we release fairly infrequently, for an
>> open-source project. I would say that's a combination of the limited
>> time our core developers can devote, the overall quality of the code
>> (fewer bug fixes) and our commitment to that quality (we try not to
>> release broken code).
>>
>> I would not fear using it for "serious business websites". If you
>> want
>> evidence of its usage in a "serious business website", look no further
>> than redken.com (USA site) and redkensalon.com. Granted, we made
>> heavy
>> customizations to Radiant for that site, but the team I worked with
>> assured me that all of the sites they have built, most of them with a
>> PHP-based CMS, have required an equivalent customization effort.
>>
>> Regarding templates (layouts, actually), Radiant gets out of your
>> way in
>> that regard. Design whatever template you want, Radiant can serve it.
>> If you want to know how to create a layout, it's best to bootstrap
>> Radiant with the "Styled Blog" template and read its layout(s). They
>> are actually a lot simpler than you might expect.
>>
>> Let me be clear. Radiant won't do everything for you, but most of your
>> needs will be satisfied by the base installation: designing, creating
>> and publishing pages. For other things, you will need to look into
>> extensions.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> P.S. Those lacking features made you MORE enthusiastic? Did I
>> understand
>> you correctly?
>>
>> Maarten Oelering wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm a ruby developer and very enthousiastic about Radiant. The review
>>> on http://www.a3webtech.com/index.php/cms-3.html mentioning the less
>>> mature state of the project and the lack of an installer even made me
>>> more enthousiastic.
>>>
>>> However I am still hesitant using it for a serious business websites.
>>> I miss some critical documentation on creating templates for a decent
>>> website, i.e. how to use the system in the role of webmaster. Reading
>>> the documentation on radiantcms.org didn't help me much. Fortunately
>>> the article in artofmission.com cleared up some things for me.
>>>
>>> Overall I get the impression that project is not very active, judging
>>> on releases, the blog and the mailing groups. However I can't see
>>> what's going on behind the scenes. Is Radiant still alive and
>>> kicking?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Maarten Oelering
>>>
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