[Radiant] Page Versioning

Travis Bell travisdbell at gmail.com
Sun Sep 30 12:07:42 CDT 2007 

Regarding editing the layouts and copies etc... in your browser, if  
any of you guys are on OS X and use TextMate, you can hit CTRL-CMD-E  
and the text area will open up in TextMate. You can then make your  
edits and hit CMD-S and boom, it saves it back to your browser  
window. Pretty slick. I think you need Safari 3 (WebKit and the new  
OmniWeb nightlies work too) for this...

Now, this is no substitute for a real remote editor but if you all  
hold on just a bit longer, it is possible something like a RPC blog  
editor could show up as an extension...

Cheers,

--
Travis Bell
travisdbell at gmail.com





On 30-Sep-07, at 10:32 AM, Aitor Garay-Romero wrote:

>    I do like your idea.  I have been thinking on something similar in
> the past.  My idea was more general, like writing a backend to sqlite3
> so DB tables and rows are written directly to individual files, and
> organized in directories as you comment.  This idea is too ambitious,
> and i don't think that i will find the time and motivation to work on
> it.  Your view of the problem is more simple and focused on Radiant.
>
>    I don't like editing templates on the Radiant admin interface, it's
> so cumbersome.  Thanks to
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125 it now more
> manageable for me.
>
>     The versioning is also painful since all the stuff is in the DB.
> Now i use sqlite3 as much as i can, mainly because all the DB is in a
> single file and i can store it in the repository too.  I do diffs on
> dumps of the DB.  Not perfect but practical.
>
>     /AITOR
>
> On 9/20/07, Andrew O'Brien <obrien.andrew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I asked this back in May.  Here's the link to Sean's response:
>>
>> http://lists.radiantcms.org/pipermail/radiant/2007-May/005038.html
>>
>> I'm wondering with facets maturing if this is more feasible now than
>> it was then?
>>
>> The problem I still see is more of a conceptual one: what I (and I
>> think you) want is a history of changes at the Page level.  However,
>> changes are done at the PagePart level.  But keeping a version  
>> history
>> for each page part separately wouldn't make sense to the end user,  
>> and
>> it probably wouldn't help admins either.
>>
>> Also, version control is a solved problem (or at least one with a lot
>> of good work already put in), whereas versioning inside of a
>> relational database is a little tougher and solutions tend to be more
>> one-off (at least in my experience).
>>
>> Alternatively, something I've been toying with (and I'd love to get
>> feedback) would be to use a variation of the import/export extension
>> to serialize the page tree (or a subtree of it) and then put that  
>> tree
>> in version control.  I was thinking of creating directories for pages
>> and representing each part as a file within that directory  
>> (instead of
>> the single file format that Import/Export does, so that changesets
>> will be more meaningful).  Reverting would be a matter of loading a
>> previous revision into the database (or you could keep other  
>> revisions
>> in separate databases).
>>
>> Some pros would be:
>> 1) We don't have to make structural changes to pages or page_parts
>> 2) We don't have to reinvent the wheel
>> 3) We can use proven tools that already work with repositories,  
>> such as
>>   a) Capistrano for deploying from an internal staging server to a
>> production one,
>>   b) Meld (or any other diff tool) for viewing diffs
>>
>> Cons:
>> 1) If you actually want the revision data to be viewable, that might
>> take a little bit of work to get it from the version control  
>> system to
>> Radiant (I think it's possible though)
>> 2) Database reload time when moving to different revisions will
>> probably be high.  There would probably be an easy way to only load
>> changed pages based on the changeset, which would cut down on  
>> this, at
>> least for moving forward in the history.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>> On 9/20/07, Mohit Sindhwani <tech at onghu.com> wrote:
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mohit.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mohit Sindhwani wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, Radiant doesn't seem to support page  
>>>> versions and
>>>> comments for the page versionsdirectly.. is there any extension  
>>>> that
>>>> does?  It seems that it should be easy enough to have support for
>>>> comments about the different page versions.  That would allow me  
>>>> to add
>>>> something like:
>>>>
>>>> RECENT CHANGES
>>>>  Version 8: Sep 12, 2007 - Added detailed explanation for  
>>>> Installation.
>>>>  Version 7: Sep 10, 2007 - Minor changes; corrected punctuation  
>>>> errors.
>>>>  Version 6: Sep 2, 2007 - Global revision change.
>>>>              [Click here for earlier changes]
>>>>
>>>> The comments can be done by adding a 'has_many  
>>>> CommentsAbtversions' to
>>>> the Page and then adding a small text input that allows the  
>>>> comment to
>>>> be input.
>>>>
>>>> Q1: In an extension, how do I tell the difference between a  
>>>> 'Save' and
>>>> 'Save & Continue Editing' - I thought it may be better to save  
>>>> comments
>>>> only when one does a 'Save' as against when he does a 'Save &  
>>>> Continue
>>>> Editing'.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm a bit more hesitant about how to actually add in the  
>>>> versions
>>>> themselves without changing the page rendering system too much.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mohit.
>>>> 9/16/2007 | 6:46 PM.
>>>>
>>>>
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