[Radiant-Docs] remove

David Kennedy dak at itracker.com
Sat Dec 1 12:41:08 CST 2007


remove me
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mohit Sindhwani 
  To: John W. Long 
  Cc: radiant-docs at lists.radiantcms.org 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Radiant-Docs] Hello and Documentation Ideas


  Hi John

  I'm worried about the time commitment myself.  I seem to have found 
  myself meandering into helping with documentation for projects somehow 
  (my Radiant based TE at Onghu site [1] is an example of just this) and I 
  feel that there's a need to make it happen.

  That said, I have noticed that you and Sean are indeed the providers of 
  most of the documentation.  I'd really like to help but I don't want to 
  over-promise-under-deliver which is why I will start small come January 
  (as I mentioned earlier) and see what can be added in.

  Frankly, given the way Radiant is, you and Sean are much better off 
  cranking out the code :-D and us '(temporarily) lesser mortals' are 
  better off supporting the documentation, but a bigger effort may be 
  necessary.  For example, although I outlined Section 3 below, I don't 
  think I'm ready to document that because I don't think I have enough 
  working knowledge under the hood to achieve that.  However, every little 
  helps, I'm sure.

  I wanted to bring up this topic to get a feel of who's on this list and 
  what the general feeling is about the documentation.  Once I'm ready to 
  start, I shall forward this request to the Radiant users list, too.  I 
  think we need an "aggregator" who can push the others for the 
  information that is needed and then collate it in the central place.  I 
  think the wiki is nice, but it doesn't get updated enough (yet).

  Don't hand me the keys yet - I'll ask for them when I'm ready!

  Cheers
  Mohit.

  [1] http://onghu.com/te

  John W. Long wrote:
  > Mohit,
  >
  > We've had a couple of people volunteer in the past to work on the 
  > documentation, but none of them have been able put serious effort into 
  > the project. I'm happy to give you the "keys to the kingdom" if you 
  > are interested in working on this. To date, Sean Cribbs and myself 
  > seem to be the movers and shakers on the documentation effort, but the 
  > time that we can devote to it is minimal. Any help that you can give 
  > would be appreciated.
  >
  > I like what you have outlined below and think that it would be great 
  > to see you incorporate some of those ideas into the Radiant Handbook 
  > on the wiki.
  >
  > -- 
  > John Long
  > http://wiseheartdesign.com
  >
  > On Dec 1, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Mohit Sindhwani wrote:
  >> The way I see it, there are 3 sets of documents that are probably 
  >> needed:
  >>
  >>  1. Radiant for Users: A guide for publishing content using Radiant.  
  >> This would be targeted at end-users and would explain the basics of 
  >> adding pages and using the built-in tags.  The idea would be that 
  >> this is the documentation that would form the starting point for 
  >> someone providing a Radiant-based CMS as a solution to their 
  >> clients.  I think a lot of the information is probably there in some 
  >> form in the descriptions of the tags.  However, it would need to be 
  >> crystallized in the form that a user of a CMS would like to see.  I 
  >> imagine that there would be a need also to include a brief guide for 
  >> designers (though I think it would be very brief).
  >>
  >>  2. Developing with Radiant: The entry-level guide for people 
  >> starting to develop a solution based on Radiant.  This would form the 
  >> basis on teaching a developer how to create a solution around 
  >> Radiant.  Targeted primarily at developers who are trying to 
  >> integrate Radiant and a bunch of extensions for their client, this 
  >> guide would help developers on how to install, deploy and use 
  >> Radiant.  It would also look at commonly used extensions 
  >> (PageAttachments, Mailer, basic language support, etc.) and how to 
  >> use them in a solution.  It would also look at how to achieve most of 
  >> the common tasks that would be needed in a solution.  It would also 
  >> look at answers to the kinds of questions I may have asked in the 
  >> past - how to avoid pages showing up in the menu, how to make search 
  >> pages, how to provide one or more RSS feeds, etc.
  >>
  >>  3. Developing for Radiant: This would cover programming for 
  >> Radiant.  I imagine that it will include items on creating extensions 
  >> (with and without database usage) and also look at programming tasks 
  >> related to Radiant.  It would also cover concepts such as creating 
  >> page types, overriding the title of a page, creating special kind of 
  >> archive pages, and the often asked how to integrate Radiant with 
  >> Rails, etc.
  >
  >


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